Guy Fawkes Night.

Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:40
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I think I said most of what I feel last year, but as I had like, one friend at the time on LJ, perhaps it bears repeating.

Remember, Remember The Fifth of November

Agree with me or disagree as you will. I don't mind celebrating that most of Whitehall wasn't destroyed, but the other side of the coin is basically anti-Catholic rhetoric which I cannot personally accept. Were it just fireworks and the remnants of the earlier bonfire night, perhaps I'd feel better. But that fucking tune, that effigy thrown on the fire... I hate it. I know that not everybody has a guy, not everybody cares, but I do care.

Returning to your regularly scheduled programming tomorrow.

Date: 2003-11-05 18:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elseinane.livejournal.com
1. Yes, Catherine of Aragon was to old to have anymore children.
2. Henry was obsessed with male heir - not just an heir (as he did have Mary I running about thanks to Catherine). Then the child he didn't want (Elizabeth) was arguably the greatest royal leader in British history (so take that Henry, you chauvinist asshole you)
3. The Protestant reformation was well on its way before Henry got an itch in his pants (literally and figuratively now that I think about it). So I agree Clare is a bit off on her reasoning there. However, with Britain still having a state religion - there would most likely be more Catholics than currently exist at this point in time.
4. Elise is showing the level of her nerdy-ness and shall shut up now.

Date: 2003-11-06 03:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apolla.livejournal.com
*agrees with Elise*

My point was meant to be an over-generalisation. I do believe it- to a certain extent- because of the huge power the monarchy had over we English at the time. But you're right about the reformation itself. I think it would've made it to these shores and had a certain influence, maybe lots, but perhaps we would still be essentially Catholic had Henry not split with Rome himself and established the Church of England. Really, we don't know, I'm theorising and I'm likely wrong. Was just making a joke of sorts to get people to think.

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